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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:12 pm Reply with quote
poufthecascadeur
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thanks for all these details and your french traduction Smile
may be an olympic model because the sailer said to me that's the components was french (mafac,stronglight)....
you're right about the paint damage may be the sailer try to clean the paint (décaper la peinture) with a torch....
i still hesitate but this frame is very nice...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:22 pm Reply with quote
verktyg
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50€ is about $67.50 USD.

Buy the frame and sell it to me for 70€ plus shipping costs! Wink

(achetez l'cadre et vendez-la à moi pour 70€ plus les coûts d'expédition aux Etats-Unis)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:34 pm Reply with quote
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Chas - thought you were culling the herd? Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:58 pm Reply with quote
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It was literal. Chas. is a shepherd.

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Chas' home for wayward Gitanes... 
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:42 pm Reply with quote
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"Veni, vidi, vici" or in my case, "Veni, vidi, emo" (I came, I saw, I bought) Laughing

I moved some things around in the Bat Cave, now there's more room! Cool




Motto for the day:

"Quondo Omni Flunkus Mortati" (When All Else Fails, Play Dead.)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:53 am Reply with quote
poufthecascadeur
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well tempted Verktyg but for this time the frame will be mine Laughing

but as soon as a found such a frame or complete bike in France i would posted it ...with no profit.....(except the shipping costs of course)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:14 am Reply with quote
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Chas.,
I'm curious. Have you mellowed? Does "I hate Purple" now only refer to what you wear and not what you ride? Wink



Jay "still looking for a Purple TdF"

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:18 pm Reply with quote
verktyg
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greyhundguy wrote:
Chas., I'm curious. Have you mellowed? Does "I hate Purple" now only refer to what you wear and not what you ride? Wink


Jay,

It's not purple... it's maroon and red fade on my 1988 non-Gitane Colnago Technos! Cool




This is purple!



... and I still hate purple! Evil or Very Mad

BTW, I haven't had the Colnago out in over a year! Most of my miles last year were on my Gitanes! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:53 pm Reply with quote
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Chas.,

Must be my monitor.

Jay

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:27 am Reply with quote
poufthecascadeur
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I finally received my frame
In fact it is a full reynolds tubing,so may be an Olympic model.
some new pictures:







what are thinking about?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:39 am Reply with quote
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NICE! That is a SWEET frameset! To have the Gitane symbol pressed into the seat stay caps is REALLY NICE!

You are one lucky guy...I love the color as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:10 pm Reply with quote
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I'm sure Chas. is drooling. He might offer you 100 Euros Wink

Jay

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:25 pm Reply with quote
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greyhundguy wrote:
I'm sure Chas. is drooling. He might offer you 100 Euros Wink
Jay


Je le veux! Je le veux beaucoup! Twisted Evil

Men sweat and women blush!

Dogs drool... I on the other hand salivate! Laughing

The 1974-75 decals on this frame along with the fancy seat stay caps would suggest that it's an Olympic/Super Olympic model or possibly a Champion Du Monde frame from those years.

Like in the early 70s TdF/SC discussion, the length of the steering tube will determine the model.

Champion Du Monde models like TdFs used Stronglight P3 headsets with a 33mm stack height while the Super Olympic/Olympic bikes had Campagnolo headsets with a ~41mm stack height.

One other possibility, it could also be a 1976 Tour de France (or Champion Du Monde) with earlier decals plus the willow leaf seat stay caps and Huret Honeycomb dropouts instead of Campys.

The indicator for this is the Reynolds 531 decal with the Ti logo on the lower left hand corner. Reynolds didn't start adding that feature until maybe late 1975 or early 1976???




1976 TdF with willow leaf seat stay caps and Campy dropout (Jay's splendid 1976 TdF doesn't have either of those features).
http://www.velo-pages.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1936&g2_imageViewsIndex=1


Guesstimating is clear as mud eh?


The picture below shows an easy way to check the stack height length of the fork and frame.



The steerer on this frame sticks out about 40mm. It was made for a Campy headset (The ruler is 2mm longer than the scale so add 2mm to the measurement to get 40mm). Wink


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:00 pm Reply with quote
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Cool 3ttt ruler. You are so euro-bike-chic.

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3TTT Ruler 
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:37 pm Reply with quote
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sandranian wrote:
Cool 3ttt ruler. You are so euro-bike-chic.


Thanks stephan, I've had that puppy since 1974 or 75! Cool

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