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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:25 am Reply with quote
mikkla
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verktyg wrote:
mikkla wrote:

We are pretty sure we need a tool like this :




That's a removal tool for a cassette not a freewheel. The splines are not long enough to work well and may strip out.

The Atom rear hub is hollow and can be easily distorted clamping it in a vise. The internal brake would never work smoothly after that.

Also WD40 is useless for removing freewheels.


You are right, this is not the exact tool I need.
The tool I do need has to be something that looks a lot like this tool.
The splines on this one are way of what it should be, I need more pointy ones.
It was for display purposes only..
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:29 am Reply with quote
mikkla
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High Chas,

I will try and post the pics soon, I have them on my tel.. but for some reason Photobucket is crashing on me today.
Once Photobucket and me are friends again I'll post them right away.

BTW, many thanks for your help and advise.
Don't blame me for not taking it all, I am a hardhead Rolling Eyes
I appreciate your help!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:30 pm Reply with quote
mikkla
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here are the close up pics :





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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:24 pm Reply with quote
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Just guessing, but it might be an old Maillard 5 speed freewheel....... Twisted Evil

Any bike shop that has been around for 30 years or more will have a freewheel remover for that. Don't bother going to one of the newer bicycle supermarkets though.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:51 am Reply with quote
mikkla
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I think that you are right Wisey, it says "maillard" on the smallest gear lol!!

We have several older bike shops here, so that would be a good starting point.
Glad to hear you have faith that the tool is widley spread.
I have a few minutes left tonight so I think I will stop by one with the hub and hear what they have to say.

That is what i always like about projects like this.
Getting the info from wherever you can, thinking you have the solution only to find out that you were soooo wrong!
Back to the drawing board, meeting new people and learning as you go.
GREAT!!

Thanks for the input Wisey!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:07 pm Reply with quote
mikkla
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SUCCES!!!

Tonight I went to a local bike dealer.
I asked the guy if he had the tool and showed him my hub.
LOL, he opened a drawer and gave the exact tool I needed to me!!!
The he tried to get the gears of, but his vise was to small for my hub.
So he gave up.

Then he suggested that I could borrow it and return it when I was done.
I drove back to my job and removed the gears within 15-20 minutes.
I did gave me a hardtime, I had to try several options because indeed it is a pain in the a@$ when you take it from the wheel.
I now see that it is way easier to remove the gears when the wheel is still complete.
But thats all history now, I am so happy I got it off and nothing is broken.

Tomorrow I will post a pic of how I did it.
Really very easy when you have the right tools.
I didnt even have to use the vise to hold it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:10 pm Reply with quote
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That must be a huge relief! Go slowly...ask questions of the experts...it should save you a lot of headaches!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:35 pm Reply with quote
Wisey
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Glad to hear that this step in the process had a happy ending. Take your time and enjoy the rest of the job.

Cheers,
Paul

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:58 pm Reply with quote
trailrunner
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Glad to hear you got it off. I looked through my old bike tools, and I actually have the freewheel tool you need. You found one before I could respond.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:28 pm Reply with quote
smilingroadrunner
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Glad to see you were successful in removal of the freewheel, I encountered a similiar challenge a few years ago trying to salvage a rear Normandy Hub that had been cut out of the wheelset. Will be interested to see your photos & method.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:41 pm Reply with quote
mikkla
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Photobucket is really not on my side these last few days... had to upload the pics twice.. anyways they are here!

Oke, I first borrowed the correct tool from the local bike guy



Then I made a few attempts to get it of, among this one using a chain..



I also tried it with a leather band, putting the hub in the vise and using a wrench on the tool.
Nothing worked.

Then I had the solution!!!
I welded the tool on to another tool allowing me to use the air tool.



After dubbel triple quatriple checking that the gears would have to come of counter clockwise me and my colleague used it.
I held the hub (with gloves) in my hands on the bench and he operated the air tool.
Don't know the real word for the tool, but it is a "hamerring" motion.
It came of immediatley!!



I was real happy that it came off and everything was still in good shape so I could use it.

Then I polished it until the original shine was there again.



This morning I dropped it of at the guy that is rebuilding my wheels.
So he now has both hubs, hope that they will be ready soon.
Once I have them back I will post some pics.

Thank you all for the support and practical tips.
Luckely I didn't have to use the "goededag" option Cool
For now I am really enjoying my project!!!

Greets
Michael
Netherlands
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:40 am Reply with quote
vanhelmont
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Michael,

You have an impressive shop! Glad to see you were successful.

Dave
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:38 am Reply with quote
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Mikkla,

Well done, that's a very ingenious method to take off the block. I like it.

All the best with the restoration.

Tim

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:40 pm Reply with quote
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Nice shop !!! access to a machine shop no less. The 'hammering' impact wrench effect makes sense---still I assume you have some hellish strong forearms/grip to hold that hub. I am really glad this has a favorable outcome without damage to the hub assembly Very Happy ---I don't believe you could find this rear brake drum / hub assembly on Ebay ---short of finding a complete tandem.----BUT HEY, it looks like you have the shop equipment that you could machine your own Laughing

For all of us Gitane fans out here, that will probably never see the internal workings of one of these tandem rear brake drum/hub assembly Sad ----any possibility that you could post some images of how the internal brake shoes fit in this Hub when you get your wheelsets back???? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:21 pm Reply with quote
mikkla
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Lol, I do have the machines and tools, but still.. I wouldn't try to machine the hub myself.
I really haven't even thought of that.
I do know some guys that are well capable of doing this, but luckely there is no need to.

Off course I will make some pics of the rear drum brake and hub.
I only have to wait until I have the wheels back.

Thanks for the replies.
I will keep you updated!

Greets
Michael
Netherlands
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