gitaneusa.com Forum Index » Vintage Gitane » Identifying a Gitane (Modell / Year)    View previous topic :: View next topic  Identifying a Gitane (Modell / Year)   Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:15 am mrt1 Joined: 05 Nov 2015 Posts: 3 Location: Germany After i checked the pinned post about general terms of a Gitane TdF and compared them with my newest Gitane, i came to the conclusion that i dont have any clue (there is no typical TdF sticker..) It is a blue Gitane with: -Huret Forkend -Huret Dropout -Stronglight Super Competition (the newer one) -Lyotard Bervet Pedal -Brooks Professional -Huret Alvit 1900 Shifting Gear -Pivo Stem -Stronglight Marquee Depose Headset and the strangest thing: Pivo Ruban Bleu Rims with "Normandy" Hubs (round holes) There is no "made in France" on them.. From the look of the hubs i would have said, the bike was built around the 50`s..the Brooks Saddle, however, is dated 73. Which HANDLEBAR would fit onto it? Which SEATPOST would fit onto it? Because right now it has a Sakae Custom seatpost built in, which is not original i suppose?! Greetings Ole 1966-67 Gitane   Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:10 am verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area Probably a model made for the French market. Maybe a 1966-67 #106 Competition model. Cranks are Stronglight Model 63. Bars would be 25mm French. I wouldn't recommend using 25.4mm (1") bars on that old stem. _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica Re: 1966-67 Gitane   Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:44 am mrt1 Joined: 05 Nov 2015 Posts: 3 Location: Germany verktyg wrote: Probably a model made for the French market. Maybe a 1966-67 #106 Competition model. Cranks are Stronglight Model 63. Bars would be 25mm French. I wouldn't recommend using 25.4mm (1") bars on that old stem. Thank you for your reply! Did Gitane used Pivo-Handlebars as well? They are very hard to find The decals at that time looked different, though. Is there a safe way to exclude TdF and SC? Is it a classy model or just a mid class? Because right now iam searching for a bike being able to compete with a PX10 Greetings Ole   Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:22 pm sandranian Site Admin Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2701 Location: Southern California Wow. Nice. I agree, as always, with Chas. _________________ Stephan Andranian Costa Mesa, CA www.gitaneusa.com   Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:13 am mrt1 Joined: 05 Nov 2015 Posts: 3 Location: Germany sandranian wrote: Wow. Nice. I agree, as always, with Chas. Thanks to both of you! Iam still struggling with the Alvit 1900 / The Pivo Ruban Bleu and the brooks made in 73". It doesn`t really fit together in my opinion, or does it? There is not much to find about the 1900 Alvit Re: 1966-67 Gitane   Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:33 am verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area mrt1 wrote: verktyg wrote: Probably a model made for the French market. Maybe a 1966-67 #106 Competition model. Cranks are Stronglight Model 63. Bars would be 25mm French. I wouldn't recommend using 25.4mm (1") bars on that old stem. Thank you for your reply! Did Gitane used Pivo-Handlebars as well? They are very hard to find The decals at that time looked different, though. Is there a safe way to exclude TdF and SC? Is it a classy model or just a mid class? Because right now iam searching for a bike being able to compete with a PX10 Ole The Super Corsa was a model made for the US market only. They were introduced in 1968. The European equivalent of the Super Corsa was the Olympic model. They were same bikes except for the names. They had all Reynolds 531 frames with 1/2 chrome plated forks and rear stays plus Campagnolo rear dropouts. Fork ends Campagnolo or Huret. Both models came with all Campagnolo components except fro MAFAC brakes. Some of both models did come with Campagnolo brakes after 1970. On the 1968 through 1976 European Tour de France models only the three main frame tubes were Reynolds 531. The rest of the tubes were light weight seamed tubing. Also, only the forks were 1/2 chrome plated. The rear stays were painted. From 1968 to 1973 the rear dropouts were either Simplex or Huret depending on the brand of derailleurs that the bike came with. Those bikes came with Stronglight 93 cranks, Lyotard 460d alloy pedals and Normandy Luxe Competition hubs. Your bike is two or three years earlier based on the Normandy hubs with the round holes and the Stronglight Model 63 cranks which were discontinued about 1966 and replace with the model 93 cranks in 1967. Pivo alloy bars were quite common. You can also substitute AVA or Phillipe 25mm bars. If you plan on riding the bike a lot, I'd look for some more modern bars that will be safer. Those old French alloy bars were made of thin, low strength tubing and tended to droop. They could fail unexpectedly. _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica   Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:11 pm sionhong Joined: 19 Nov 2015 Posts: 4 Check for date codes on components. The vintage Trek site has an awesome set up for date codes. Looks like a bottom end bike, I would expect tubing to be gas pipe. Many manufacturers "conveniently" forgot to label gas pipe frames. voir www.etuicoquesamsung.com & housse samsung galaxy j5 Last edited by sionhong on Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:51 am; edited 1 time in total   Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:34 am verktyg Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 2814 Location: SF Bay Area sionhong wrote: Check for date codes on components. The vintage Trek site has an awesome set up for date codes. Looks like a bottom end bike, I would expect tubing to be gas pipe. Many manufacturers "conveniently" forgot to label gas pipe frames. Bikes from that era didn't usually have any traceable date codes or serial numbers. I'll be polite... I suggest that you do a little more research. The bike is a classic mid-range Gitane from the 1960s. Very rare indeed. _________________ Chas. SF Bay Area, CA USA ============== 1984 Criterium 1969 TdF 1971 TdF 1974 TdF 1984 TdF x 2 Bikes 1970 SC 1971 SC 1972 SC 1984 SC 1984 Team Pro 1985 Professional 1990s Team Replica   Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:21 am rustystrings61 Joined: 15 May 2013 Posts: 10 Location: Greenwood SC This is a lovely bike. It is NOT gas-pipe, as a look at the next-to-last photo reveals a Reynolds 531 tubing decal on the seat tube. A clearer photo would be nice, but it looks like it's the label indicating main tubes only. On the other hand, the rear stays are also chromed, which usually indicates 531 stays - though that is based on bikes sold in the U.S. Then again, the stay ends are domed and not fish-mouth cut, so they may well be something other than 531. Is it comparable to a PX-10? I suspect that it will ride better, even if the Peugeot has 531 forks and stays and this one has something else. My experience is that (assuming it hasn't been crashed and has no alignment issues) it will have superior handling, just by virtue of being a Gitane. The components are roughly comparable to what a mid-60s PX-10 would have had - same cranks and brakes, comparable hubs and rims, bars, stem, etc. The Peugeot's delrin Simplex stuff might have been lighter and a bit smoother, but this bike's Huret Allvit derailleurs should clean up and work very well - the French used to regard the Allvit as a very nice unit. If I owned this bike, I would lovingly clean it and gently scrub and re-lube every bearing, maybe wax the frame and the polished chrome, and ride it. It looks to me to be in excellent shape for a 50-year old bike. Maybe quietly build a second wheelset with some 700C clinchers, but this is a lovely bike. I will echo verktyg - I would research this bike. And this one is unlike any other Gitane I have seen, and I think it is waaaay cool. _________________ Russ Fitzgerald Greenwood, SC, USA   Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:14 am Stefan_N Joined: 22 Dec 2015 Posts: 1 Location: Nuremberg, Germany Hello, I'm Stefan from Nuremberg, Germany. I am the new owner oft this mysterious frame only, not the entire bike. I took all the french components I had at home, plus a stem from ebay.fr an a wheelset from one of my other vintage racebikes to complete the frame. I just wantet to check wheater the frame has alignment issues. After few kilometers last sunday, I can say it runs perfect. My only problem was the short seatpost, which was on my daughter's children-racebike, bevore I used it to mount the Ideale 43 saddle. The frame has 531 main tubes only and weights about 2200 grams. The fork is rather hefty with about 800 grams. Below a few pictures from the first ride in the hope to get more information about the bike. 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